NOT ALL THAT GLISTENS IS GOLD........ BUT INSTEAD .... ALL COLOURS OF THE RAINBOW?
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They were shivering and were all colours of the rainbow as they stood there waiting to be cleaned .
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[OB] You may remember that last month I did a brief comment on Goldenbridge, which I knew little about until I saw some comments Marie-Therese O'Loughlin had recently left on a comment from 2005 on industrial schools in Ireland.
I asked Marie-Therese to tell me more, and she has; we're working on an article which will be on B&W soon.
I asked Marie-Therese for a little basic detail about daily life - and she sent some. I don't feel like waiting to publish it.
Warning: the following contains material which some readers may find disturbing.
I know I do. Marie-Therese finds it very disturbing to recall it.
Morning at Goldenbridge.
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The children got up at six o'clock each morning. A staff member who grew up in the institution stormed into the dormitories and switched on the lights and roared 'Get out of those beds immediately!' If a child hesitated at all the bed covers were flung across the floor, if a child became even more stubborn, as often happened, the mattress with the child was toppled over onto the floor. Children then had to make their beds to hospital standards as well as tidying up their dormitories.
Goldenbridge housed on average two hundred children, a percentage of them were infants, babies and toddlers.
I remember clearly, at approximately 6:30 in the mornings, when I was eleven years old or thereabouts having to go to
St Joseph's babies/infants dormitory.
I had to dress the toddlers, it was normal for some of them to have slept in their own excrement/urine..
When I took them from their destroyed beds, I always found it so upsetting as they were always covered from head to toe in excrement/urine.
They were shivering and were all colours of the rainbow as they stood there waiting to be cleaned.
I had to use the clean corners of the destroyed sheets.
The only place to get water was from a very small toilet bowl. I dipped the clean corners of sheets in the respective bowl and then cleaned the children.
The whole dormitory which was a dark dank cold place stank to high heaven.
The head honcho of the Sisters of Mercy at this time of the morning was up in the convent saying her prayers.
Afterwards, the soiled sheets were placed in another soiled opened sheet, and with the help of another child we carried them down a flight of {back} stairs and across the open prison-type yard, that Brendan Behans mother/Christine Buckley aptly negatively commented on.
The weight of them was awesome as we heaved/pushed/dragged/trundled them along to their final destination, which was the bathroom/laundry, that was situated at the end of the yard.
There were other soiled sheets there from the Sacred Heart dormitory which were waiting to be washed.
Children, like myself, who had no family visitors, or big girls who wet the bed, were given the grotesque task of handwashing the sheets in cold water in the laundry.
This story, like that of the rosary beads, can only be properly told only by those who were hidden, "all the time" in Goldenbridge, the ones who were imprisoned behind the doors, who were the lowest on the rungs of the institutional Goldenbridge ladder.
Bernadette Fahy, author of Freedom of Angels, or Christine Buckley who appeared in the documentary 'Dear Daughter,' who also suffered horrendously, would not have been doing this despicable job, as they both attended the outside Goldenbridge National School.
Entry by: Marie-Therese O'Loughlin.
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RE: SUPREME COURT 2005 - CHRISTIAN BROTHERS
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There is something obscene about these "Christian Brothers" using up valuable time and resources of the Supreme Court in another well orchestrated and designed delaying tactic. Their "public excuse" for this - being, the protection and "good name" of their deceased perverts.
A little exercise in mental gymnastics would show more serious implications of their "concerned" intent in showing to the world, their "readiness" to confront the past, and in their words "bring closure and HEALING" to the abused.
(I wont swear), these delaying tactics are meant to further facilitate the removal to Rome of all relevant and damning documentation.
What if the Supreme Court were to request all records which so far have been removed from this Country.
Would such an order be complied with, indeed does the Supreme Court have the "power" to order the return of all documentation, surely in order that a "just" and rightful decision be reached?
Should not the court be in possession of ALL EVIDENCE relevant to the submission being made, and on the published findings so far, in a contextual capacity.
Is not Justice Mary Laffoy's interim report condemnatory of any such move by these "Christian Brothers" in seeking the "impartiality" of the Supreme Court?
The published public findings currently against them as a result of the interim report, and this only from the "confidential committee" must leave a vacuum whereby all victims waiting to appear before the Investigation arm of the Commission, will suffer further indignity and indeed alienation from any judical proceeding findings in "the favour" of these religious sects who "fear" the naming and shaming of dead perverted clerics!
Why the fear?
More to the point, would be, what are they trying to avoid, or hide?
Justice must be the PRIORITY of the Supreme Court to the now dead and abused children.
These dead children HAVE NO FEAR OF THEIR PAST AND DEAD ABUSERS BEING NAMED.
Justice Mary Laffoy had that in mind as she pursued the truth, and was getting there.
Her conclusions and findings MUST STAND and be a lasting testimonial to her indomitable spirit and fight against those who took the opportunity at every stage to thwart her search for the truth.
I have to mention here (grudgingly) the "efforts" of our very own satirically elegant minister for "Education" Mr. Noel Dempsey, otherwise known as the talking donkey.
Who is to "public relations" what Gilles DE Rais, was to children. Perhaps the Supreme Court may take the "opportunity" to "remind" donkeys, that "cracking the whip" at the Judicary will not be tolerated, and being a donkey does not entitle one for automatic entry to the "Gold Cup".
THE DEAD ABUSED CHILDREN HAVE MORE RIGHT TO THEIR MISERABLE PLIGHTS BEING PUBLISHED
THAN THE DEAD PERVERTS WHO INFLICTED SO MUCH TERROR AND ABUSE ON THEM. THIS HAS TO BE THEIR HOUR AND GLORY.
FROM "AN ANGRY" SURVIVOR/VICTIM OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE NOW DOMICILED IN LONDON, ENGLAND..................{.ANOTHER BOCK?}
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AH, BUT YOU DO, UNBEKNOWN TO YOURSELF!.......................................THANK YOU MOST SINCERELY ........DAVID MCGRATH SENIOR COUNSEL
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I DON'T DO NICE, but on this occasion, it's not ONLY called for, BUT DESERVED.Without the need to wave a flag, nor intentionally for myself to be seen as "human".
There ARE times when reason overrides the more compelling emotive mitigations which becomes the "spur" for a cause to renew, AT ANY COST, the restoring and RENEWAL OF HUMAN DIGNITY FOR THE MANY THOUSANDS of former Inmates of the Institutions of Ireland.
While fully cognizant of the time, effort and in some cases, the sacrifices of many GOOD solicitors and legal teams who unstintingly gave not only of their time, but did so in the must humane of manner, much thanks and many appreciations have to go to such people, I speak here of the CARING legal teams who went and rose above the call, and did SO MUCH MORE. Thanks go to them.
NO ONE MAN, OR WOMAN, "MAKES A TEAM" But this IS about ONE MAN, and that MAN has to be DAVID MC GRATH, Senior Counsel.
Senior Counsel are only as good as the "brief" they receive.
Belief in the "brief" given is another matter, and David Mc Grath, showed this belief, unquestionably so.
He trandscended the stringent impositions imposed by the evidence given in Phase Two, the "secret hearings" by skillfully introducing "certain aspects" of this "secret evidence" by very astute legal manouevering, in the most erudite of fashions, leaving NOTHING TO THE IMAGINATION of what EXACTLY transpired during the giving of this "secret evidence"in Phase Two.
Careful study of the Transcripts reveal this, and its MOST telling when one considers the number of times Sean Ryan had to interpose himself on David Mc Grath to "spare" the black garbs FULL EXPOSURE of public humiliation during Phase Three.
Some years ago in London a meeting was conducted by the Redress Board, it chaired by Mr Michael O Beirne, in Jurys Hotel, Secretary to the Redress Board.
At that meeting I asked a "question" of Mr O Beirne of " what were the mitigating factors which governed the criteria to not only the Redress Board, but also under the remit of the Ryan Commission, that these hearings and inquiries to the core issue of Institutional Abuse be held in secret, and WHO or WHAT determined those issues as the rationale and basis "as the best way forward" BEST WAY FOR WHO?
Mr O Beirne, in his honesty replied, "I CANT ANSWER THAT", I DONT KNOW!
The die was cast LONG BEFORE ANY "EVIDENCE" WAS HEARD.
It was ONLY that day that realization dawned upon myself that JUDICIAL INTENT in ANY prosecutorial spectrum DID NOT constitute any envisaged part of evidence.
INCRIMINATORY evidence emerging, subsequent to ANY proceedings, be it proven or otherwise, finding its way INTO A CRIMINAL COURT(indemnity etc)
Fair enough, a Political decision had been taken on the basis of evidence ALREADY IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE.
I have NO QUALMS with "politican decisions" based on the premise THAT AN EXPLOSIVE SITUATION WAS WELL UNDER WAY.
As more and more courageous survivors/victims emerged possessed of the courage to put aside the shame, humiliation and degradations of injustices and abuses suffered as children, and LAY THAT BLAME AND SHAME AT THE FEET OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE, STATE, and RELIGIOUS.
As time passed it became blindingly obvious that we witnessed here a cosmetically tailored exercise in the shape of the Ryan Commission
Becoming more concerned to imbroil itself as the means whereby "crisis intervention" became the by-word, through its Chairman, Sean Ryan.
To hang out a "lifeboat" on a DAILY BASIS to the religious orders giving "evidence" during Phase Three, a Phase THEY ASSUMED WOULD NEVER ARISE, BUT IT DID.
DESPITE the many obstacles placed in front of him, DAVID MC GRATH seized his moment and viciously, brutally and with superb aplomb and expertise and exposed the MANY SHORTCOMINGS given in Phase Two by the religious.
It was a pitiful sight to behold as they entered the realm of TRUTH ACTUALLY FORMING A PART OF THIS COMMISSION.
While mindful of the relevancy that Ryan himself was to a particular degree "handcuffed" by his OWN REMIT, he must by implication deal with any attendant MORAL BLAME his conscience may impose upon him by wilfully obstructing David Mc Grath. who obviously possessed the intent to show that Political transgrression had entered the arena of the Commission itself.
This was a fact, not lost on Ryan, that had Mc Grath got his DESERVED way, it therefore WOULD have followed that David Mc Grath would have by implication assumed a powerfull "legal tenet" which pointed to Political Blame, AND NOT THE COMMISSION being SOLELY RESPONSIBLE, which precluded the following of a certain line of questioning designed to copper fasten THE ADMISSION OF TOTAL CULPABILITY INVOLVING STATE and RELIGIOUS.
It was at this point that Victims/Survivors became the secondary issue as opposed to the "political need" to rein in "exploratory questioning" quickly assuming an ethos of believability in highlighting "expected"Political Expediency to a "no blame culture" as a "desired outcome" being the HIDDEN REMIT of the Ryan Commission.
THIS EXPECTED OUTCOME STILL STANDS!
No blame CAN be attached to Ryan here, the faceless pen pushers and bureaucrats have done their work well.
THEY HAD TO, the Political implications of TOTAL EXPOSURE to horrendous Institutional Abuses practically countenenced by the State would indeed have grave repercussions even today, irrelevant of which HISTORICAL "PERIOD" these abuses pertain to.
Suffice it to say that David Mc Grath exposed the terrible spectre, so fresh today in so many minds that,
THE STATE FAILED IN ITS DUTY OF CARE. it still fails, and the abused are left to CARRY THIS FAILURE.
My thanks, for what its worth, must go to DAVID MC GRATH, not forgetting the VERY MANY other and courageous Legal Eagles, who, despite the many handicaps thrown their way, continue unabated, spirits unbroken, to fight on.
IT IS UP TO US TO CARRY THE FIGHT TO THE ABUSERS,
NOT TODAY, TOMORROW OR NEXT MONTH, BUT "NOW"
SILENCE GIVES "THEM VICTORY"
THEY`LL GET NO "VICTORY" FROM ME!
TO DAVID MC GRATH,
FROM AN ADMIRER
VICTIM/SURVIVOR OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE - NOW DOMICILED IN LONDON, ENGLAND.
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RE:CHRISTIAN BROTHERS
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Tuesday, May 23, 2006.
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A right of reply from the Christian Brothers.
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The Christian Brothers, those poor gentle scholars, are getting more flak in the press for their attitude towards child abuse....................................... And in the interest of fairness and balance, Blogh an Seanchai would like to present Brother Ambrose O'Lunasaigh, former head brother of Scoil Crash Bang Wallop Naofa............................................. Seanchai: Brother, you're very welcome on the show. Tell us -- you feel that the whole institutional abuse inquiry is portraying an unfairly negative image of the Christian Brothers. Why is that?........................................... Br Ambrose: Well, I think the whole relationship between the Irish state and the Christian Brothers needs to be put into context............................................... On the one hand, there's no doubt that some small minority of the Christian Brothers systematically buggered the little children in their care. And there is also no doubt but that the Christian Brothers systematically tried to cover it up, because we didn't want the church to get caught up in scandal. So we repressed it. And you have to remember, we were very good at repressing things. Repressing our sexual urges -- well, many of us anyway. Repressing any students that thought they were something special, we really cracked down on individuality in the schools, for fear that people might, might develop some class of individuality......................................... Seanchai: But wasn't that the nature of the whole society, it was a repressive society?........................................ Br Ambrose: Well now you have it! It was the nature of the whole society, but the Christian Brothers lay at the heart of that. You see, for the first 45 years of the state, the government ignored their republican duty to educate the population. So it was up to the Christian Brothers to fill that gap, to educate and brainwash the clever kids and beat seven shades of shite out of the thick ones. Now, I know that people will say that kids can't learn when they're hungry, or if they're dyslexic, but at the end of the day, I prefer to call a spade a spade. Those kids were thick. And we kept them off the street until they were old enough to emigrate to work on the building sites in England, which is where they truly belonged..................................................... Seanchai: But brainwashing the other kids?............................................ Br Ambrose: Yes, and that was perhaps our greatest success. It got the government off the hook, because we provided a blend of basic education, nationalist propaganda and religious zealotry to the middle classes, who might otherwise have agitated for a proper public educational system. And you know what that means. It would have meant a secular publicly funded education system, the same as they have in Godless countries like America, Sweden and France. They may have money, but do they have God in their lives?....................................... For example, back in the 1950s I could hammer a child for any reason -- stupidity, laziness, poverty -- and if he went home and complained to his parents, they would say 'you must have deserved it.' So it wasn't just single-generation brainwashing, it was multi-generational brainwashing. Some of those kids had parents who were reasonable and sophisticated people, but they all trotted out the party line when faced with the clerical abuse -- you must have deserved it. They didn't blame the Christian Brothers, they didn't blame the Irish state, they blamed their own child......................................... Seanchai: Astonishing if you think about it............................................... Br Ambrose: It was a thing of beauty. A terrible beauty, if you like.................................... Seanchai: So even though corporal punishment was banned in authoritarian countries like Czechslovakia in the 1950s, it carried on in Ireland until the early 1980s?................................................. Br Ambrose: Later than that, we just ignored the law that banned corporal punishment. We don't take our lead from communist countries. God wanted those childen to be beaten.............................................. Seanchai: Does that explain why the Irish government chose to idemnify the Catholic Church against claims of sexual abuse in orphanages?........................................... Br Ambrose: Well, the government was paying for the orphanages, even though we ran them on their behalf. And they never carried out inspections, since they knew that we were men of God and above reproach................................................ Seanchai: Still, isn't it astonishing that the government capped the church's liability at EUR128 million, they didn't insist that you split the liability 50-50, or something like that, when the final liability could run into billions?............................................... Br Ambrose: That lad Michael Woods, he knew his place. He wouldn't allow people to sue God's anointed.................................. posted by An Seanchai at 1:21 PM 1 comments links to this post........................Ends.................... Another Man with his finger on the pulse! VICTIM/SURVIVOR OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE.
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Friday, 22nd December 2006
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It is with profound regret that the Board announces the death, today, 22nd December 2006 of its Chairman, the Honourable Mr. Justice Seán O’Leary. The Board wishes to extend its deepest sympathy to Judge O’Leary’s wife, Mary, and to his family. Marie-Therese O' Loughlin.
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Tributes to Judge O'Leary.
TWO former Taoisigh led the tributes yesterday to judge and former Fine Gael Director of Elections, Sean O'Leary, who died on the eve of his retirement, calling him a "remarkable" man with a "brilliant sense of humour". Mr O'Leary, who most recently chaired the Residential Institutions Redress Board, died in Cork on Friday after a lengthy illness. Former Taoiseach Dr Garret FitzGerald described Mr O'Leary as a man of great personal warmth, humour and generosity with "quite exceptional intellectual capacity, profound integrity and a natural authority drawn from his combination of talents." And former Taoiseach John Bruton, now EU Ambassador to the US, said Sean O'Leary was a "deeply humane and lovable person who held the most prominent and varied positions in public life, without ever losing his humility or his brilliant sense of humour." Mr Bruton added: "He will be deeply missed, especially by those to whom he showed so much kindness over the years." The Fine Gael leader, Enda Kenny, said he was a gifted individual who had an exceptionally bright mind. Mr O'Leary, who was aged 65, is survived by his wife Mary and their adult children.....DON LAVERY
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It is not necessary to let people know about the (abusive) existence of the Redress Board....it is, however, much better to express your views regarding the abuses it permits against those that have been abused.....and continues to be the case......
http://www.freewebs.com/robbiedempsey61/guestbook.htm
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Oh, and another thing, by appraising David McGrath...(senior counsel) as the child abused hero, so's to speak, you might like to know that he also alleges that children abused one another as well!!!!.......that is in plain black and white....see transcripts in that regard....
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Just been to website Robbie.
How dare abused persons become strong and speak out.
The system thought you were well rid of by now.
To arise from the ashes is too much for them to handle so gag the bas***s
I wish all abused people to have this strength and come forth and have no fear at this time.
I decree 2007 to be Year Of Truth.
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In the dark over abuse inquiry.
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It is always dangerous to disagree with a judge over his or her interpretation of the law.
It is akin to bearding the lion in its den, writes Mary Raftery.
That said, I would like to take issue with Mr Justice Sean Ryan, chairman of the Commission on Child Abuse.
My concern relates to the constraints he has placed on lawyers appearing for victims of abuse during their cross-examination of the religious orders. The commission has just entered the final and critical phase of its inquiries.
What it calls its Phase 3 hearings were to have been the climax of the process, allowing for the first time robust cross-examination of the heads of religious orders which ran the industrial schools.
The idea of this phase was that it would probe the areas of accountability and responsibility for the abuse suffered by those who spent time in these institutions as children.
Many of the victims of this abuse have already given evidence to the commission.
Their testimony was called Phase 2.
All of it was held strictly in private, with the result that there has been no public airing whatsoever of the allegations of abuse made to the commission.
or the past two weeks, we have been hearing the defence of the religious orders against these accusations, which remains unknown to us.
This cross-examination phase has been eagerly anticipated for some time.
It has, however, been shown so far to have been disturbingly brief.
This week's hearings with the Sisters of Mercy, and last week's with the Rosminian order, finished way ahead of schedule.
Cross-examination of the Rosminians, who ran seriously abusive institutions at Upton in Cork and at Ferryhouse just outside Clonmel, took only one day out of its allotted three.
The Sisters of Mercy were questioned on a number of their institutions, and were let go after only three of the scheduled five days of hearings.
It was in the middle of the cross-examination of Mercy nun Sr Margaret Casey that Mr Justice Ryan made clear the limits he was placing on such questioning.
Sr Casey was being examined by David McGrath SC, representing the victims of abuse at Our Lady of Succour Industrial School in Newtownforbes, Co Longford. He quoted from the sworn testimony given in private during the Phase 2 hearings from a former inmate, and put this to Sr Casey:
"I wet the bed frequently, usually out of fear, and for this my day started with a beating."
Mr Justice Ryan immediately stopped him. He would not permit him to use victims' testimony in this way, he said, "as the law prevented it."
He could put general points to the witness (Sr Casey), such as bedwetting in general, but could not question her on specific allegations.
It is worth quoting Mr Justice Ryan's exact words: "There is a specific statutory prohibition on hearing in public or dealing with evidence relating to specific individual complaints of abuse.
So, we have to comply with the legislation."
It is indeed true that the early legislation which established the commission stipulated that evidence of abuse allegations should be heard in private. However, this law was amended last year, with an important change made to this particular provision.
Section 6 of the Commission on Child Abuse (Amendment) Act 2005 states that such evidence may in fact be heard in public, should the commission so decide.
Mr Justice Ryan himself played a major part in drafting this amending legislation.
This discretion over what is to be private (hidden, secret, even?) and what is to be in full public view has the potential to be an important asset to the commission.
It allows it to preserve the privacy of those complainants who might request it, while at the same time being able to make full use of their testimony of abuse during the phase which allows cross-examination of the religious orders.
The practice, however, has been somewhat different. Since we, the public, have not been permitted by the commission to hear the evidence dealing with allegations of abuse, we have received an oddly skewed impression - we hear a public defence where we have not heard the accusations.
To disallow now the specific allegations to be put to the relevant religious orders means that it could be argued that victims' lawyers are forced to operate with one hand tied behind their backs.
It also does no favours to the religious orders concerned, insofar as they are denied the opportunity to deal in detail with the allegations made against them.
Next week, we are to hear from the Christian Brothers, against whom possibly the greatest number and the most serious allegations of abuse have been made.
It will be our only chance as a society to witness their responses to these allegations.
It would be a great loss were the process of cross-examination to be curtailed in such a way that we will never get to hear the detail of the accusations being levelled against this congregation, together of course with their own defence.
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In the above as Sean Ryan stated, "THE LAW PREVENTS IT," surely Sean Ryan means, "THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT" as laid down in the COMMISSIONS REMIT, and ""NOT THE LAW", if it WAS the law "preventing cross examination" in efforts to ESTABLISH TRUTH , then THAT law requires changing, in order to facilitate a means of method to procedural norms of APPEAL to contest Judge Sean Ryans "interpretion" of the law AS HE SEE`S IT.
If THE LAW is to be the victim of CARPETBAGGING to accomodate AN INDEMNITY which USURPS THE LAW, then SURELY the INDEMNITY becomes the precursor to THE PREVENTION OF TRUTH BEING ESTABLISHED.
The indemnity and its introduction was seen as a means of getting these black garbs to the Commission, and NOT as a means granting exculpatory self incrimination being "avoided"using the LAW as an "interloper" to waylay bona fide questioning on subjects, IF EXPOSED, would render the Commission itself SUPERFLUOUS as THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT of the Commission would have then to be abandoned.
AS ANY TRUTH EMERGING WOULD "HARM" THOSE SHELTERING UNDER THE INDEMNITY.
This in itself exposes the HIDDEN DUALITY of the Commission, if under the INDEMNITY any TRUTH emerging can BE SUPPRESSED BY "LAW," and if under cross examination any LAWFUL emergence of truth , can be avoided by quoting the INDEMNITY, AND WE ALL WENT TO HEAVEN IN A LITTLE ROWING BOAT, being without a PADDLE IN WHITE WATER is A DODGY BUSINESS.
I honestly feel that what we witness here is something called "TEMPORARY LAW", whose introduction is wholly consistent with Political Expediency to "delicate situations"
IF LAWFULLY EXPLORED THROUGH LAWFUL CROSS EXAMINATION, would EVENTUALLY place THE STATE, (and historical members of same)AS THE PRIME MOVERS IN AN ABYSMAL CHASM OF HORRENDOUS CORRUPTION WHICH OVERSAW, AND INDEED COUNTENACED THE ABUSE OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN BY DEFERENCE TO A CHURCH WHO IN EFFECT "CONTROLLED" THE VOTING POWER OF THE NATION.
IT IS THEREFORE LOGICAL TO DECLARE- THAT THE STATE FAILED IN ITS DUTY OF CARE.
IT IS FURTHER LOGICAL TO DECLARE - THAT THE STATE COMPOUNDED THIS LACK OF CARE BY ENTERING INTO AN "INDEMNITY" DESIGNED TO NOT ONLY "HALVE THE BLAME" BUT TO SUPPRESS EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION AND COLLUSION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE.
A VICTIM/SURVIVOR OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE NOW DOMICILED IN ENGLAND.
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JUSTICE * JUSTICE * JUSTICE * JUSTICE * REAL * RYAN * JUSTICE.
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Some years ago, the whole of the "Justice" system and indeed the legal profession in the U K was practically brought to its knees , the release of the BIRMINGHAM SIX, THE MC GUIRE SEVEN, THE GUILDFORD FOUR, ETC, ETC.
This resulted in sweeping changes, the setting up of various bodies , not only to test "evidence" but judicial reviews becoming the norm when ANY doubt in relation to any conviction where the EVIDENCE HAD NOT BEEN HEARD IN FULL.
Marys Rafterys point is valid, and at the same time a "little"worrying, as phase three of the commission so far, has again resulted in the various orders been provided once again with a public platform for grandstanding, and once more we see each and every one of these "defenders" of their orders typifying self aggrandisment and STILL heaping superlatives upon themselves.
The whole basis of their "defence" once more becomes centralised on "underfunding and understaffed" as the main theme being pursued, along with many "WE DIDNT KNOW, AT THAT TIME, WHAT DAMAGE WOULD BE DONE, ETC, ETC.
From the transcripts, its chillingly clear that those in authority in these child Gulags, in particular from evidence recently heard of MOTHER SUPERIORS BEING SCHIZOID, RUTHLESS, RECKLESS, UNCARING, RIGIDLY UNBENDING CONVINCED IN THE BELIEF THAT THEY WERE DOING "GODS WORK", SO MUCH SO, THAT LIKE MANY "CARDINALS" THESE MOTHER SUPERIORS ALSO HELD THE BELIEF, THAT WHEN THEY TALKED, "IT WAS GOD TALKING", AND AS "GOD CAN'T DO ANY WRONG", THE SYSTEM WHICH EVOLED, THE BRUTAL SYSTEM WHICH EVOLVED HAS US WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
And where we are today, is the issue.
Contextually in an evidental sense, the writing is on the wall for these religious orders, so much evidence of past abuses, given by so many has led to unprecedented levels of "ostrich mimicking" to ensure that the REAL horrors of these Gulags NEVER emerge.
And its this "bending"of Judicial procedure to accomodate such suppression that I make the analogy of similar precedents which led in the past to so many "miscarriages of justice"
In the "old days", the courts operated on the premise that, THE POLICE COULDNT LIE, WOULDNT LIE, WOULD THEY, BUT THEY DID, AND DID SO OUT OF A NEED TO "SECURE CONVICTIONS" BUT IN THE religious CASE, WE HAVE THE "OPPOSITE", THEY ""HAVE" TO LIE, IN ORDER THAT A CONVICTION IS "NOT" SECURED.
An indemnity deal, coupled with secrecy, even in itself , those two vital ingredients so necessary to the religious have in a sense failed, the truth to some extent, has got out there, but its miniscule in comparsion to the publicity so enjoyed whenever any of these religious oders impose their sickening rhetoric on an unsuspecting public.
The Ryan Commission HAS to rise above political expediency and "expectations" imposed by their Political Masters, THE LAW DEMANDS IT, AND ANY CORROSIVE INFLUENCE OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS IN RELATION TO DUE MERIT, WHERE DESERVED, WOULD BE A TRAVESTY.
THE "ENGINEERED REMOVAL" OF JUSTICE MARY LAFFOY HAS TO BE SEEN AS A WATERSHED AND BENCHMARK IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, IT UNDERLINED THE NEED, NOT ONLY POLITICALLY, BUT SOCIALLY, TO ENSURE THAT THE "TRUTH" OF THE REAL HORRORS OF GULAG LIFE WOULD "NOT BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST" WE HAVE A NEED, NOT ONLY TO HEAR OF THE "TRUTH", BUT THE PRESSING NEED TO HEAR AND READ "EXACTLY" WHAT IT IS THAT THE RELIGIOUS ATTEMPT TO DEFEND.
THE EYES OF THE WORLD CENTRES ON THE RYAN COMMISSION, AND HOPEFULLY, IF JUSTICE IS TO BE SERVED, WE MIGHT JUST GET TO SEE IT IN "ACTION" OR WILL THE "OSTRICH MENTALITY WIN". "AN ANGRY" SURVIVOR/VICTIM OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE NOW DOMICILED IN ENGLAND.
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Everything has to come out for the truth to be seen.Otherwise its horrors continue to the present day.
The HSE still orders electric shock treatment to force children to play happy families.
Of course it all happens in a secret gestapo style courts that Hitler would be proud of.
The old style gagging order is wonderful for keeping truth hidden even now.
Same tactic as the church, It's our little secret.!!!!!!
But it is the world's BIGGEST SECRET.
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Barnardos Family Tracing Service
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ORIGINS
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Is the name of the family tracing and information service from Barnardos.
The service is specifically for people who spent part of their childhood in residential institutions.
Origins supports individuals who wish to access personal information held by the Department of Education and Science, other Government departments and religious orders concerning their stay in industrial or reformatory schools, or assists them in tracing family members.
Origins is an expansion of the independent information, advice and counselling service Barnardos has provided (on a voluntary basis) since 1977 for persons separated from their families of origin.
The service is funded by the Department of Education and Science.
The Origins Service consists of a team of Information Counsellors and administrative staff based in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Wexford and a Service Manager.
Diversity
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Origins staff will give the respect and recognition due to all former residents of industrial and reformatory schools, independent of their race, gender, age, marital or family status, sexual orientation, physical or mental capacities, ethnicity, membership of the Travelling community, social origin, or political or religious affiliations.
Accessing Your Records.
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The Department of Education and Science has provided an electronic copy fo the personal records of former residents of industrial schools to Barnardos. The records remain the property of the Department. Origins will only access the records of Origins service users.
What do the Records Contain? Records so not always contain the information you may hope to find.
Very few include day-do-day accounts of life in the schools. Things you remember clearly may not be recorded. For many people there are no records at all.
The Department of Education and Science only maintained records on former residents who were placed in industrial schools by the courts.
What Records Will I Be Given?
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You will be given any records about yourself, including medical records if they exist.
With regards to family members, we can give you their names, ages and the schools they attended if this information is recorded.
We cannot share the records of other family members with you without their permission.
We will also try to obtain information from other sources, which are not part of the Department of Education and Science database, about your time in an industrial or reformatory school, and about your family background. This may take more time.
Confidentiality
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We know that the information contained in these records is of an extremely personal and confidential nature.
Barnardos Information Counsellors will only access your records on your written request.
All of your records are treated as confidential within Barnardos.
Only staff members working directly on your enquiry, along with the Manger of the Origins Services, have access to your information.
Third Party Information
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“Third Party Information” is that which is written about another individual, or a document from another agency (for example, the ISPCC). Other agencies may want a formal request for permission before they release such documents.
You may need to write a letter requesting the documents (we could write the letter on your behalf).
Anything in your records about people other than your family members will not be shared with you, without their permission. Information regarding your history will not be shared with third parties unless:
a) you have given written permission, or
b) there are concerns for the safety of yourself or others, particularly the safety of children
The latter situation is exception; in the event of this situation, you will be fully informed.
How Will We Arrange for You to See your Records?
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After you have contacted us asking to see your records, and Information Counsellor will arrange a first meeting with you at a time that suits both of you.
After this meeting, we will search for your records. We will then arrange another meeting with you to discuss any information we have founds.
If for any reason it is not possible for you to visit our office nearest to you, please let us know.
Will I Need to Verify Who I Am?.
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Yes, you will need to provide proof of your identity when you meet with the Information Counsellor. Any one of the following items can be used as proof of identity:
Driving licence
Benefit book
Medical card
PPS card
Pension book
Savings book
If the item you bring does not contain your current address, please bring some other evidence to this purpose, such as a recent utility bill (ESB bill, telephone bill, etc.). This provides security for you and for us that only you can access your personal records.
What Will Happen When I Come to the Office?
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The Information Counsellor will go through your records with you and explain them to you. You may want to bring a partner or a friends with you for support, as some people find reading information about themselves and their family background distressing.
It may bring up memories of the past, which you thought had been forgotten.
It may be necessary for you to make more than one journey to the office to complete the reading of you records.
You can arrange this with the Information Counsellor who has researched your records.
Can I Take My Records Away?
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Yes. When you have read through your records with the Information Counsellor, if you wish you will be able to take away a copy of everything you have read.
Sharing Records.
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We realize that it may seem quite natural for one member of a family to obtain records and then pass them on to the others.
But each individual's experience has been different. So please think carefully before passing on what you have learned to another member of your family.
If this family member has not had any preparation, they may find the information very distressing.
It can also be hurtful and damaging for a family member such as a parent to read what was written about them many years ago.
Will Reading My Records Answer All My Questions About the Past?
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This is unlikely. As we have already explained, there are many gaps in the records for all sorts of reasons.
People have different reactions to reading their records. Most people who have had information from their records are glad they asked.
Some say they have a better sense of who they are.
Some have a better understanding of why their families parted with them and this can be a healing experience.
Others are left with unanswered questions, which can be upsetting and disappointing.
Can Barnardos Refuse to Let Me See My Records?
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Only in very exceptional circumstances may we postpone access to your records.
In such an event, the reasons will be discussed fully with you.
This could happen where there was evidence of a real risk of serious harm occurring to yourself or another individual as a direct result of reading the records. In such unusual circumstances, Barnardos would be obliged to:
a) Show evidence of such a risk.
b) Ensure that you are well supported.
c) Review the decision to withhold the records within a reasonable time so that access to records could take place when the risk of serious harm has passed.
Tracing Family Members
As well as offering support in accessing your records, we will provide you with help in tracing family members from whom you have been separated as a child.
If our tracing service is successful in finding a family member on your behalf, we are not permitted to release that family member's current address without their consent. However, we will make every effort to mediate with your family member on your behalf and provide such supports as may be helpful.
Any such mediation and tracing undertaken under this section will be conducted in accordance with the customs, conventions and practices followed by Barnardos, and these will be explained fully when we meet with you.
This service is also available to people where the Department of Education and Science has maintained no records on his/her period of residence.
Protecting Children
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Barnardos is an agency committed to the highest standards of child protection. You need to be aware that if you tell us about ill treatment of children in the present, we must pass this on to the police or the Community Care Social Work Team, whose duty it is to take action to protect children. We will always try to do this with care and sensitivity to your feelings.
We hope that, in such circumstances, you would understand the importance of taking this action.
Applying for the Service
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You can apply for the service by contacting {or you can apply directly} to Barnardos.
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Savage Cruelty of the Hibernian Gulags
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Sunday November 19th 2006
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Founded on Fear
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Peter Tyrrell.
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{Irish Academic Press, €18.50 }
OF THE many sad stories contained in Peter Tyrrell's book, two have haunt-ed me particularly. The first is of John Coyne, who arrived in Peter's third year and was two years younger. He is not mentioned until the author's sixth and final year.
John Coyne's father murdered his mother, and John was sent to Letterfrack, a shy and timid boy. Peter describes him as "a really handsome boy with a lovely round face, dark hair and brown eyes.
"There was that searching look in his face. He seemed to be asking: 'Do you really know the dreadful experience I have had? Do you really mind very much? Do you condemn me for what has happened? Will you hold it against me?'"
Peter befriended him, shared with him what his mother sent him from home and never questioned him. "I was extremely fond of this little lad."
Peter witnessed the first beating the "little lad" had at the school. Then John Coyne fell under the cruel punishments of Brother Vale, who flogged boys without mercy, using the rim of a motor car tyre, reinforced with steel.
"Vale has beaten this unfortunate boy terribly during the last year. His lovely face seems to have changed an awful lot, that roundness has vanished, instead his face is long, his cheek bones stick out, his eyes just glare and there are dark shadows underneath. His cheeks were once rosy but now they are chalk white, with several spots."
We learn nothing more.
The image is just one of the many cameos of mental and physical destruction that are calmly and clearly delivered in Peter Tyrrell's essentially restrained narrative about a truly terrible place.
The second image is not of an inmate, nor of a brother, but of Mr Griffin - always so described - a schoolteacher at Letterfrack who was present in the yard every day and "was good to the children, he would read and write their letters for them."
When Tyrrell arrived in 1924, Mr Griffin had been in Letterfrack since 1882, at first on a wage of eight shillings a week. He was dutiful and polite towards the Brothers, always lifting his torn cap to them, addressing them correctly, but they treated him with disdain.
Peter Tyrrell helped make a suit in the Letterfrack tailors' shop for Mr Griffin and then witnessed the man's weekly wage, which had by then risen to £1, being reduced by four shillings as part of school "economies".
Griffin could not afford a shirt or socks. He worked from six in the morning until nine at night, never took a holiday and never missed a day. He even looked after the boys during holidays, taking them to the sea.
Peter came from Ahascragh, Co Galway. His parents and eight children lived in a hovel without windows. In due course the family were notified that four of the children, including Peter, would be committed to a home. They were all sent to Letterfrack.
The book is crowded with images, most of them truly terrible. The savagery of Brother Vale has an insane fury behind it, with indiscriminate floggings and no logic or reason behind them.
"I have now been beaten [by Vale] several times daily for weeks," Peter writes, "and when I go to the refectory for meals my hands are sweating. My sight is getting blurred and I am unsteady on my feet.
"I feel hungry, but when I eat the food it will not stay down. I am now weak and, as I walk along, find it difficult to keep my balance."
Vale was eventually committed to a mental institution,where he died.
One of Peter's worst beatings was at the hands of Brother Walsh. Walsh one day lined up a group of 12 of the boys, made them take off their trousers and beat each in turn with a heavy stick.
Peter Tyrrell was last; after six blows he ran away but was chased by Walsh who beat him on the head, face and back. He hit him so hard on the arm that he broke it - but told the child to tell the doctor that he fell down the stairs.
He was two weeks in the infirmary. The new doctor was called Lavelle, a man who wore plus-fours and was always smoking. Inspecting Peter in the presence of the Superior, Brother Keegan, he saw the bruises all over his body. Yet nothing was done.
There is a compulsion in the way Peter Tyrrell tells his story. His memory is remarkable. His treatment of each episode is calm and measured. One never doubts the facts he tells, it is all too realistic.
He demolishes absolutely the whole representation before Judge Sean Ryan of what was happening in Christian Brothers industrial schools during the period of their operation. There were not just "bad times", or "bad people"; the savage, unrelenting cruelty was systematic, constant and comprehensive.
There was no attention paid to their health. Those with eye defects simply became more blind; those with teeth problems became chronically diseased. There is a pitiful description of one boy with blood and pus coming from his mouth. Other children had septic discharges from their ears. Their chilblains, which were chronic, also went septic.
I first heard of Peter Tyrrell from his article about Letterfrack in Hibernia in 1968. I still have the cutting, and it reminds me of Owen Sheehy Skeffington's campaign against corporal punishment in Irish schools.
Attempts have been made to lessen what happened in Letterfrack - and in Artane, and elsewhere - by claiming that they did not differ much from ordinary schools, and that the poverty was a common distress shared by the population.
Founded on Fear demolishes that argument. It has the compelling strength of Solzhenitsyn's One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich - only, for Tyrrell, one day stretched out into years.
He was caught up in a system where his incarceration was really not much different from the Stalinist gulags. Lost, fearful, in despair, physically and mentally neglected, he came to hate his own home, to throw away letters unread and unanswered. In the end, Peter Tyrrell took his own life and his body remained unidentified for a year.
He has articulated the grief and fear of something like 30,000 men and women who will never forget the experiences they had. They have badly needed this unforgettable testimony. But we should all welcome it, and read it.
Bruce Arnold
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Ragged Schools
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Ragged Schools is a name given to the 19th century charity schools in the United Kingdom which provided education and, in most cases, food, clothing, and lodging for destitute children. They received no government support.
The movement had its beginning in the magnanimous efforts of John Pounds (d. 1839), a disabled shoemaker of Portsmouth, but the zeal and eloquence of Thomas Guthrie greatly furthered the development and spread of these schools throughout the United Kingdom.
The Ragged Schools were charitable schools dedicated to the free education of destitute children. The movement started in Scotland in 1841, when Sheriff Watson established the Aberdeen Ragged School, initially for boys only; a similar school for girls opened in 1843, and a mixed school in 1845. From here the movement spread to Dundee and other parts of Scotland, mostly due to the work of the Rev Guthrie.
In 1844, the movement spread to England, with the establishment of the London Ragged School Union under the chairmanship of Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 7th Earl of Shaftesbury. Cooper was president for 39 years, in which time an estimated 300,000 destitute children received education. At the zenith of the movement, there were 192 Schools, with an average attendance of 20,000 pupils.
As well as giving very elementary education, the Ragged Schools engaged in a wide variety of social welfare activities such as running Penny Banks, Clothing Clubs, Bands of Hope, and Soup Kitchens. However, despite their alternate name of Industrial Feeder Schools, only three Ragged Schools gave trade instruction, the only form of education for which Government grants were available. With the advent of the board schools as a consequence of An Act to provide for Elementary Education in England and Wales (9 August 1870), the curricula of which did qualify for such grants, the number of pupils at Ragged Schools gradually declined.
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Ragged Schools, Industrial Schools and Reformatories
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Social reform was already underway in Britain before The Waifs and Strays Society was founded in 1882. This article looks at how some poor children were dealt with by the Victorian system.
In her discussion of the ‘Ragged Classes and Dangerous Classes’ Gertrude Himmelfarb briefly outlines the school provision made, ‘For the ragged classes … there were the ragged schools. … For the perishing classes who had not yet fallen into crime but were likely to do so, there were industrial schools. And for ‘juvenile offenders’ or ‘delinquents’ … who had already committed crimes … there were reformatory schools.’
(1) Ragged Schools
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For many of the destitute children of London, going to school each day was not an option. There was no such thing as free education for everyone. From the 18th century onwards there had been some ragged schools, however they were few and far between. They had been started in areas where someone had been concerned enough to want to help disadvantaged children towards a better life.
The schools were given this name because the children who attended had only very ragged clothes to wear and they rarely had shoes.
In other words they did not own clothing suitable in which to attend any other kind of school.
How did they start?
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In the beginning many of the schools were started by the Churches and were staffed by volunteers. However because of the growing number of children it soon became necessary to have paid members of staff. Many petitions to Parliament for grants were made.
The Ragged School Union
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During the 19th century many people began to worry about the neglected children and so more schools were opened. In 1844 the Ragged School Union was formed with Lord Shaftesbury as its chairman. In the beginning there were just 16 schools connected with it but by 1861 there were 176 schools in the union.
What did the schools provide?
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As well as giving basic lessons many schools provided food. As time went on some also opened refuges where the children could sleep especially in the extremely cold weather.
Even so there were still many areas where there was no provision. In 1853 John Garwood wrote ‘In one street … in the south of London, there now exist 1,500 destitute and criminal juveniles, for whom there is not even a school provided.’
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Many people believed that by giving the children an education they would be enabled to lead a better life in the future.
They would be able to find work to keep themselves and so would not need to steal in order to live.
Mr Locke of the Ragged School union called for more help in keeping the schools open.
He asked that the government give more thought to preventing crime rather than punishing the wrongdoers. He said the latter course only made the young criminals worse
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Locke detailed all the things achieved by the ragged schools and the difference it had made to the children who attended. He said the schools had been able to find employment for many of the children and they were taught to be careful with their money.
As well as learning to read and write they were also given moral guidance. Although so much was being done there was so much more to be done, Locke said they were certain that there were ‘thousands upon thousands [of children who] roam the streets unheeded and uncared for, to plunder and do mischief’.
(4 Industrial Schools
Industrial schools had two main objects, to instil in the children the habit of working and to develop the latent potential of the destitute child. One of the earliest attempts to start an Industrial feeding School, as they were at first called, was in Aberdeen in 1846.
What was their purpose?
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Industrial Schools were intended to help those children who were destitute but who had not as yet committed any serious crime.
The idea was to remove the child from bad influences, give them an education and teach them a trade.
It was felt that although the ragged schools were fulfilling a need the provision they provided did not go far enough.
The children needed to be removed from the environment in which they had been living. Depending on the circumstances of the child they either attended the school daily or they were able to live in.
Daily Timetable
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The timetable was quite a strict one, the children rose at 6.00am and went to bed at 7.00pm.
During the day there were set times for schooling, learning trades, housework, religion in the form of family worship, meal times and there was also a short time for play three times a day.
The boys learned trades such as gardening, tailoring and shoemaking; the girls learned knitting, sewing, housework and washing.
The Industrial Schools Act.
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At first like the ragged schools the Industrial Schools were run on a voluntary basis. However in 1857 the Industrial Schools Act was passed.
This gave magistrates the power to sentence children between the ages of 7 and 14 years old to a spell in one of these institutions.
The act dealt with those children who were brought before the courts for vagrancy in other words for being homeless.
In 1861 a further act was passed and different categories of children were included:
Any child apparently under the age of fourteen found begging or receiving alms [money or goods given as charity to the poor].
Any child apparently under the age of fourteen found wandering and not having any home or visible means of support, or in company of reputed thieves.
Any child apparently under the age of twelve who, having committed an offence punishable by imprisonment or less.
Any child under the age of fourteen whose parents declare him to be beyond their control.(5)
The act stated the child had to be ‘apparently’ under the age of fourteen.
This was because children often lied about their age if it was advantageous for them to do so. Some children genuinely did not know how old they were. It was not until 1875 that it became compulsory to register births.
The cost of the Schools.
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Parents were supposed to contribute to the cost of keeping a child in an Industrial School.
This often proved impossible to collect because most of the children were homeless.
The money had to be found from government sources. As time went on there was quite a lot of unease about the funding mainly because of the rapid expansion of the system. Some people thought it was too big a drain on the public purse. More and more magistrates preferred to send young offenders to the schools instead of prison. From 1870 the schools became the responsibility of the Committee of Education.
Reformatories.
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The children who were sent to reformatories were those who had come before the courts having committed more serious crimes.
They had usually been arrested many times. T
he clear distinction between Industrial Schools and Reformatories was that the children sent to Industrial schools were destitute and those sent to Reformatories were juvenile offenders.
As the 19th century neared its close people started to realise that all children deserved to receive an education.
All children needed care and protection especially those who had been given such a poor start in life and who had received little in the way of care and protection previously.
References.
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1. The Idea of Poverty by Gertrude Himmelfarb (p.379)
2. The Victorian Town Child by Pamela Horn (p.6)
. The Victorian Town Child by Pamela Horn (p.6)
3. The Times 24th November 1855 (page 4 col. f)
4. The Times 24th November 1855 (page 4 col. .f)
5. Fagin’s Children by Jeannie Duckworth (p.2
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The frequent abuse of the reformatory and industrial school system was a serious problem.
Children were sometimes sent to reformatories rather than industrial schools to prevent them from becoming chargeable to the local authorities.
The procedure before the courts in industrial schools cases was examined.
Archibald Campbell, Clerk to the Burgh Court in Edinburgh gave details of cases brought before the city magistrates.
These were often brought before the court by policemen and officers of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children.
Applications for sending children to industrial schools were, however, also made by agents of these schools.
"It was thought that the "found wandering" and "not having proper guardianship" clauses in the Industrial Schools Act, 1866, were sometimes deliberately misinterpreted in order to fill the industrial schools."
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Christian Brothers' brutality has origins in colonialism.
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It was difficult to avoid a slight frisson of shame, watching the recent States of Fear documentaries, to be reminded of the extent to which the brutality associated with the Christian Brothers had been exported to other countries.
The final programme dealt in detail with the revelations in recent years about abuses in institutions run by the Brothers in both Canada and Australia.
In every respect, the picture accorded with the domestic one: brutality, sexual perversion and sadism were the order of the day. But while it is good for us to confront our own darknesses, concentrating on them to the exclusion of other aspects may not facilitate enlightenment.
States of Fear, seeking perhaps to shock us into realisation, did not go in for complex analysis. The argument it presented of the Brothers' excursions to foreign lands was stark: here was an Irish order bringing debasement and pain wherever it went.
It is difficult to defend the Christian Brothers, but there is one detail which Mary Raftery's documentary left out, an important characteristic which Ireland, Canada and Australia have in common (other than the benefits of the CBS approach): all three are former colonies of the British Empire. (Please don't write in to say that Ireland was never, technically, a colony of Britain.
Semantics can damage your health.) As a number of writers to the Letters to the Editor page have hinted recently, it is not useful to examine these issues outside of the paradigm provided by British colonialism.
Because the Christian Brothers are alleged to have promulgated an extreme nationalist version of Irish history, it may seem implausible to present them as representatives of the British colonial machine. Consider the possibility, however, in the searing light of Padraic Pearse's analysis in his seminal essay, The Murder Machine.
The English, he wrote, had "planned and established an education system which more wickedly does violence to the elementary human rights of Irish children than would an edict for the general castration of Irish males.
To invent such a system of teaching and to persuade us that it is an education system, an Irish education system to be defended by Irishmen against attack, is the most wonderful thing the English have accomplished in Ireland; and the most wicked.
One of the most terrible things about the English education system in Ireland is its ruthlessness. I know no image for that ruthlessness in the natural order. The ruthlessness of a wild beast has a certain mercy - it slays.
But this ruthlessness is literally without pity and without passion. I
t is cold and mechanical, like the ruthlessness of an immensely powerful engine. A machine vast, complicated, with a multitude of far-reaching arms, with many ponderous presses, carrying out mysterious and long-drawn processes of shaping and moulding, is the true image of the Irish education system.
It grinds night and day; it obeys immutable and predetermined laws; it is as devoid of understanding, of sympathy, of imagination, as is any other piece of machinery that performs an appointed task.
Into it is fed all the raw material in Ireland; it seizes upon it inexorably and rends and compresses and remoulds; and what it cannot refashion after the regulation pattern it ejects with all likeness of its former self crushed from it, a bruised and shapeless thing, thereafter accounted waste." The "Irish" industrial school system was the refuse bin of the colonial machine.
That it was run by Catholic agencies does not dilute the fact that, like the rest of the system, its purpose was, as Pearse wrote, to produce "good slaves".
Brutality in education was tacitly accepted, which explains why it could happen in such close proximity to everyday life. Other post-colonial societies, Australia and Canada for example, entertained similar public attitudes.
Australia, in particular, has long had a "traditionally" high level of tolerance towards brutality in both home and school, and this existed before the Christian Brothers arrived.
What we need to look at, therefore, is not what the Christian Brothers did, but what they represented and where this emanated from.
As Barry M. Coldray has demonstrated in his essays and books on the role of the Christian Brothers in Ireland and elsewhere, the truth is altogether more complex than our present-centred neurosis will allow.
As with so many things about Ireland, when seeking the original culprit it is inadvisable to rule out the old enemy.
It is strange but true that the founder of the Christian Brothers, Edmund Ignatius Rice, developed his philosophy as a reaction to what he perceived to be the excessively violent nature of education at the time.
In the early 19th century, floggings were an everyday occurrence, 50 or 100 strokes of a cane on the bare back or buttocks being a fairly standard chastisement. Punishments were administered with sticks, belts, cat-o'-nine-tails and bare fists.
From the establishment of the order in 1802, the Christian Brothers very quickly came to be seen as opposed to these practices. "Unless for some very serious fault, which rarely occurs," Rice wrote in 1810, "corporal punishment is not allowed." In 1825, the British Royal Commission on education noted, with some astonishment, that, whereas pupils at Christian Brothers schools were kept in good order, the teachers "seldom have recourse to corporal punishment".
It was in the wake of the passing of the 1878 Intermediate Education (Ireland) Bill, providing for a "payment by results" system, establishing a direct connection between examination results and the funding for schools, that the Christian Brothers began to develop their "modern" reputation.
Afterwards, while the brothers became markedly more successful in providing teaching for Irish boys who would otherwise have remained uneducated, they also became more notorious for brutality.
The "greater good" of "civilisation" was used to justify methods which themselves mocked this objective.
It is remarkable that, in the wake of independence, although the formal policy of the order reverted to what it had been in the beginning, many brothers ignored the rules and maintained a degree of severity in keeping with the external culture, which maintained a high tolerance for the maltreatment of children.
This tendency became more pronounced in the 1940s, when the Brothers became associated with the crude attempt to "de-Anglicise" Ireland and rid it of "alien" influences.
The ironies of this are obvious and immense. There is, then, a bigger story here than we are yet able to assimilate. It would be wrong if such complications were employed to get us off the hook.
But simply purging ourselves of Christian Brothers, and entertaining a quiet sense of smug grievance as we watch them being led away in chains on the six o'clock news, is as pointless and dangerous as believing that we can eliminate corruption from Irish politics by crucifying Charles Haughey.
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Child Abuse and Institutional Care.
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February 2, 2007.
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May we refer to the abstract dated 28th January 2007 “Child Abuse and Institutional Care in Historical Perspective” Published online by Cambridge University Press dated 21st December 2006 so that we can give some idea what life was really like for children in an Irish industrial school prior to the 1970s and how victims of institutional child abuse have fared since.
In his statement on the 11th May 1999, An Taoiseach; Mr. Bertie Ahern T.D. acknowledged that “too many of our children [in institutional care] were denied…love, care and security.
Abuse ruined their childhoods and has been an ever – present part of their lives, reminding them of a time when they were helpless.
I want to say to them that we believe that they were grossly wronged, and that we must do all we can to overcome the lasting effects of their ordeals”.
This has simply not happened.
We do not believe that under the present Redress Board process that all has been done to overcome the lasting effect of abuse in care.
We have a Redress Board composed of personal that have not the remotest idea of what an Industrial or Reformatory School was or is like.
We have a fast track method of redress in which the actual survivor never gets to present his/her case in reality and in the main is left with only a vague description as to what the solicitor presented or the Redress Board accepted as evidence as to his/her suffering.
In reality it isn’t easy to find work or housing due to the fact of not having any documents or records including medical records and an education from the Irish State and the Religious Orders.
It should be apparent that life in an institution did not prepare life for thousands of victims of institutional child abuse and the Redress Board members and the Ryan Commission do not fully understand what life is like for victims of institutional child abuse.
After reading the above mentioned statement dated 11th May 1999, it’s quite clear that the Redress Board and the Ryan Commission should be abolished immediately.
We have a Redress Board composed of personnel who haven’t got the slightest bit of intelligence in how to get their heads around the medical reports so they deliberately demoralize the reports so they can mark down the scores and award pittance.
It’s quite clear that the former Minister of Education & Science, Mr. Michael Woods T.D. claimed the awards made for abuse would parallel the substantial awards made in the High Court.
He recommended that the best guidance for the Government should be “by reference to the level of awards made by the Irish Courts for pain and suffering and loss of amenities arising from serious personal injury.”
It’s also quite clear that the present Minister for Education & Science, Ms. Mary Hanafin T.D. said “Members of the Oieachtas Committee on Education have been assured that awards by the Redress Board were in line of the High Court, and that it had an obligation to do this.
This has simply not happened.
By comparison with court awards for sexual abuse, the offers and handouts from the Redress Board have been derisory.
Dr. Michael Corry, founder of the institute of Psychosocial Medicine, said the Redress Board is one of the greatest abuses perpetrated against victims of sexual abuse in religious – run institutions and stated that his firm believe is that the Redress Board contravenes the most basic of human and civil rights.
In short it represents a crime against humanity.
It should be abolished immediately and replaced by an open forum where the victim is not only properly monetarily compensated, but where they can have their perpetrators named, and the scales of justice balanced.
Many Survivor support groups have received a number of complaints from victims of institutional child abuse claiming they have received reduced levels of compensation after waiving an initial award by the Redress Board.
It’s quite clear that we have Redress Board considered illegal outside Ireland.
Try to get any Solicitor representing victims of institutional child abuse to test its legality in court.
Many thousands of unfortunate children who were either abandoned as a child or taken away from their families were made defendants in an unconstitional court.
They were charged, sentenced and imprisoned contrary to Art. 10 UN Universal Declarations of Human Rights.
They were not given any proper hearing in court nor were they legally represented.
In order to facilitate the incarceration of the children, evidence inadmissible in a proper court was accepted.
The court never considered any alternative to imprisonment.
Thus, many children suffered long terms of false imprisonment in institutions in what are now termed as Irelands concentration camps for children.
The State and the Religious Orders attitude towards many families meant that an abandoned child or children taken away from their family was an "illegitimate" child, and was seen as a threat to Holy Ireland.
Therefore thousands of children suffered many years in institutions.
The State and the Religious Orders perceived a danger that these children would not become devout Catholics.
The solution was to incarcerate these children with the Religious Orders where they would be reared in "the fear and love of God.
This destruction of many families was in direct contravention of the letter and the spirit of the Irish Constitution.
In pursuance of an anti - family ideology.
Many children were deliberately marginalized, criminalized and incarcerated in industrial schools by the State.
They were made into social outcasts who could be abused with impunity.
There was no such thing as "compassionate leave."
Indeed, compassion was altogether absent in the treatment of many children and their families.
Many families that were broken decades ago remain broken to this day because neither the State nor the Religious Orders have provided the records to trace their families or relatives.
Having been disgraced as a criminal by the court.
Many children bore a social stigma that would render them vulnerable to abuse in detention and would handicap them socially for life.
Once the children were imprisoned, systematic measures were taken by the State and the Religious Orders to isolate the children from their families and from any outside contacts.
The State and the Religious Orders poisoned many of the children's family relationships by feeding the children malicious lies about their parents.
Many of the children's parents and their relatives were discouraged from visiting them.
All this had had the effect of rendering the children more vulnerable and malleable.
The policy was clearly intended to achieve total control.
Many children were isolated from other children and close friendships with other children were broken up.
Many children experienced a terrible loneliness even in the presence of other children.
This was clearly part of the perverse philosophy of the Religious Orders.
Many of the institutions were situated in isolated parts of the country where the children's parents and relatives would have found it impossible to visit them in the institutions.
Many parents and relatives found it impossible to visit their children in the institutions as their efforts were resisted and blocked by the State and the Religious Orders.
A recently discovered document is evidence that the State and the Religious Orders withheld information from parents and relatives of children in institutions.
The document states that they could get their children out of the institutions a lot sooner via an application form.
Many victims of institutional child abuse now suffer knowing that their parents and relatives would not have been told about the document.
Many victims of institutional child abuse can't remember the Religious Orders offering a greeting such as "good morning "or wishing them “happy birthday" or " happy christmas" or playing with any toys or reading any books as a child.
There was no such thing as praise for a task well done or any encouragement to self- expression.
The Religious Orders were highly abnormal and disturbed individuals and incapable of showing any natural love or affection.
Many victims of institutional child abuse spent the whole of their childhood in institutions without the experience of love and affection.
The exposure to constant fear and insecurity and the deprivation of normal personal relationships meant that many children developed unnatural emotional responses.
This was arrested development from which complete recovery rarely if ever occurs.
Many children showed the signs of emotional disturbance in crying and in bed - wetting and many children would be beaten for these expressions of suffering and unhappiness.
The Detention Order effectively made the children the property of the Religious Orders which then the children could be exploited for any purpose by the Religious Orders.
Many abused children were put to work at an early age and were largely engaged in full time slave labour in profit - making enterprises run by the Religious Orders.
This often exhausting slave labour was done at the expense of the children's education and they were beaten by the Religious Orders if they failed to perform.
Many children represented a unit of income and were also a unit of slave labour to the Religious Orders.
The Religious Orders was thus reluctant to let go of the children in the institutions.
The use of children as slaves also implied degradation and the use of time that the children should have spent in educational activity and not suffer as a slave.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse report that they had no privacy, and were accorded no private physical space or private property.
Many children slept in large open dormitories.
There was no privacy in the cold open bathrooms with the other children.
Clothing was shared and distributed at random after laundering which was old and bad fitting.
Many children were given no private mental space either and were subject to continuous indoctrination in religious dogma and expected to reveal their innermost being to the Religious Orders.
The control from anything outside the institution also served to isolate the children from their parents and their relatives and prevent the children reporting the abuse to anyone on the outside of the institution.
It has been learnt that the policy was very effective in this respect due to the fact that the Religious Orders knew they never taught any children to read and write.
The lack of education in detention as a child is well documented in the reports.
The provision of education for many child abuse victims was non existent in the institutions.
Many children left the institutions at the age of sixteen to twenty years old illiterate and innumerate.
Many victims of institutional child abuse report that there were no qualified teachers among the Religious Orders there was not even a library in the institutions.
Many children were in an appalling state of ignorance.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse had spent all their childhood in institutions and knew little or nothing about the outside world.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse were unsuited to any decent work except the most menial and low paid.
The Religious Orders must have viewed education as unnecessary and undesirable.
Education might have expanded the children's horizons and might have limited the children's usefulness as a child slave.
It might have led the children to question the appalling circumstances of their life and that would be counter to the total control philosophy of the Religious Orders.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse have no evidence that the Department of Education and Science and the Religious Orders showed any interest at all in their education and the few available documents to date make little or no reference to their education.
Lack of education meant that many survivors of child abuse were profoundly ignorant of themselves and the real world.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse had left institutions lacking any marketable skills and with extremely poor vocational prospects.
The poor educational achievements and lack of vocational training correlates strongly with low earning potential throughout their life.
The effects in relation to the lack of education are still with them today.
But many survivors of institutional child abuse are determined to educate themselves in learning to read and write.
The brutality and physical abuse is well documented in the reports.
The abuse was routine and could be ritual or casual.
It was constant in many children's life in the institutions it was a deliberate part of the reign of terror operated by the Religious Orders to establish total control in a closed world where abused children spent their lives into their late teens.
Many children witnessed acts of brutality on other children during incarceration.
Much of the abuse was performed in the open to humiliate the victim and terrorize the other children.
Because the children had nothing with which to compare an abnormal life, the children took this random and ritual violence as "normal".
But even though injured to brutality and violence, the children experienced constant fear.
Even today many victims of institutional child abuse suffer the effects of flashbacks to the violent incidents of abuse.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse experience of suffering a permanent state of starvation and malnutrition in institutions is evident in the former Education Medical Department Inspector Dr. Anna McCabe's reports.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse were familiar with it from an early age.
The deprivation of a diet that is adequate in quality and quantity in their childhood has profound effects on their development and continues to affect them throughout their life.
Both short - term and long - term effects are well known to nutritionists and the medical profession.
Deliberately depriving children of a proper diet is an egregious crime.
The effects of childhood malnutrition can never be undone in later life.
In conclusion, experts agree on the long - term effects of childhood malnutrition as follows: "The effects of early malnutrition are long lasting.
The capacity to learn is diminished, leading to reduced skills in reading, arithmetic and reasoning.
Women who were malnourished in early childhood become stunted adults, with narrow pelvic dimensions and at risk of having prolonged difficult deliveries, or even dying in childbirth.
Stunted mothers are more likely to deliver low birth weight newborns.
Other long - term effects in adults include reduced muscle mass, lower capacity for work and less earning potential".
From: Dr. Reynaldo Martorell, Robert W. Woodruff Professor of International Nutrition and Chair, Department of International Health, Emory University, 2001.
Many survivors of institutional child abuse suffer from the fact of having little or no evidence of their childhood medical records from the institutions in relation to their health and welfare and well being.
Regarding the sexual abuse of children in religious run institutions, this is well documented in reports.
Nevertheless, the State and the Religious Orders had a duty to understand what was happening to the abused - a duty which they neglected.
If the abuse of the past is not to be repeated it is essential the State and the Religious Orders face up to reality, however unpleasant it may be.
This will involve an analysis of the minds and the motivations of the perverts.
The use of children as objects for sexual gratification by members of the Religious Orders has been known about for centuries and should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with Church history.
Abuse of this kind which happened to innocent children was possible because of the total unsupervised control in a closed world of so called Industrial Schools.
Sex education was absent in the institutions run by the Religious Orders.
It's quite clear that sex abuse with a pubescent child is expected to have long - term effects.
The experimentation with drugs on children in religious run institutions is also well documented in reports.
Many victims of institutional child abuse suffer severe emotional flashbacks arising from such abuses in their childhood and many victims find it difficult returning to Ireland even when returning for holidays due to the multiple personal and educational handicaps imposed on them.
Many victims of institutional child abuse have to reinvent their personal history to avoid discrimination due to not having their childhood records and family origins.
It is to their credit that despite their handicaps they are still trying to be independent and make a success of their life.
When one reads the European Convention on Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights including the Human Rights Committee terms of reference at the office of the Law Society of Ireland it soon becomes very clear why the Irish State and the Religious Orders and the Redress Board including the Ryan Commission are in breach of our human rights.
Albert King, on behalf of Mary King. (victim of institutional child abuse). Dated 28th January 2007.
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Lawyers fight ruling on overcharging in abuse cases
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TWO solicitors are challenging findings of a Law Society Committee that their firm charged excessive fees from two abuse victims.
The victims had claims before the Residential Institutions Redress Board (RIRB).
One of the abused claimed on the Prime Time programme last May that he was overcharged by the firm Ahern, Roberts, O'Rourke, Williams & Partners, of the Old Rectory, Carrigaline, Co Cork.
In his case, the High Court heard yesterday that he was charged €8,510 by the firm.
The man secured an award of €70,000 from the RIRB, plus €6,000 for solicitors' fees.
The firm had accepted the €6,000 and retained an additional €2,510 from the award.
The second abuse victim secured an award of €103,333 from the RIRB, plus €10,800 for solicitors' fees.
The firm's total fee sought was €14,300 and it retained the balance from the award.
In judicial review proceedings the solicitors - Gary O'Driscoll, of Shearwater Apartments, Kinsale, Co Cork, and Grattan d'Esterre Roberts, of Riverwood, Currabinny, Carrigaline, Co Cork - are challenging the handling of matters relating to the fees.
The action is against the Law Society of Ireland and the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.
Justice Liam McKechnie was told in the High Court yesterday that a letter sent by the Prime Time programme to on May 12, 2006 had "changed the landscape", and the solicitors decided to initiate judicial review proceedings.
In the letter, Prime Time referred to the man who was charged €8,510 by the firm for processing his claim. The court was told by the solicitor's counsel Brian O'Moore that it was obvious the adverse findings of the complaints committee would be featured on the programme.
Prime Time also requested an interview.
The court also heard that the solicitors had refunded the money but did not accept that they had overcharged.
The solicitors claim the Law Society was affected by media controversy surrounding solicitors' fees for claims before the RIRB.
Mr O'Driscoll is a former partner in the firm while Mr Roberts is a partner in the firm.
The case continues before the High Court today.
Ann O'Louglin
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Solicitors begin High Court action on overcharging.
TWO solicitors in Co Cork yesterday began their High Court challenge to findings by a Law Society committee that excessive fees were charged by their firm to two abuse victims for processing claims before the Residential Institutions Redress Board.
One of the claimants claimed on RTÉ’s Prime Time programme last May that he was overcharged by the firm — Ahern, Roberts, O’Rourke,
Williams & Partners, the Old Rectory, Carrigaline, Co Cork.
In the case of that claimant, he was charged a total fee of €8,510 by the firm for processing his claim the High Court heard.
That man secured an award of €70,000 from the board, plus €6,000 for solicitors’ fees.
The firm had accepted the €6,000 and retained the additional €2,510. In the case of the second claimant, he secured an award of €103,333 from the board, plus €10,800 for solicitors’ fees. The firm’s total fee sought was €14,300 and it retained the balance of its fees from the award.
In judicial review proceedings, Gary O’Driscoll, of Shearwater Apartments, Kinsale, and Grattand’Esterre Roberts, ofRiverwood, Currabinny, Carrigaline, are challenging the handling by the Law Society and its complaints committee of matters relating to the fees issue.
The action is against the Law Society of Ireland and the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.
Mr Justice Liam McKechnie was told in the High Court yesterday that a letter sent by the Prime Time programme to Mr Roberts on May 12, 2006 “changed the landscape” and the solicitors decided to initiate judicial review proceedings.
In the letter, Prime Time referred to the claimant who was charged €8,510 by the firm, and the court was told by the solicitor’s counsel Brian O’Moore SC, that it was quite obvious the adverse findings of the complaints committee was going to be featured on the programme.
The court also heard yesterday that the solicitors had refunded the money but did not accept that they had overcharged and they contended the fees were appropriate and reasonable for the amount of work carried out on the cases.
In the proceedings the solicitors claim the society’s approach to the matter was affected by media controversy surrounding solicitors’ fees. The society was “so worried” about the bad publicity it might suffer if it were not seen to take a “hard line” with any solicitors who had charged fees in excess of those recovered from the board.
Both men claim the society and committee failed to allow the firm resolve the matters directly with their clients by agreement before proceeding to make determinations on the matter.
Solicitors begin High Court action on overcharging. - By Vivion Kilfeather
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Law Society rejects claims of bias over excessive fees
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Sat, Feb 17, 2007
The Law Society has told the High Court it rejects claims of bias by its complaints committee in reaching a decision that excessive fees were charged by a firm of Cork solicitors to two abuse victims for processing claims before the Residential Institutions Redress Board.
Shane Murphy SC, for the society, contended the complaints committee was entitled to investigate any complaints of misconduct against solicitors.
Mr Murphy was making legal submissions on behalf of the society in judicial review proceedings brought by Gary O'Driscoll, of Shearwater Apartments, Kinsale, and Grattan d'Esterre Roberts, of Riverwood, Currabinny, Carrigaline.
The action is against the Law Society of Ireland and the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.
The society's disciplinary committee investigated claims made by a man, on the Prime Time programme in 2005, that he was overcharged by the law firm Ahern, Roberts, O'Rourke, Williams & Partners, the Old Rectory, Carrigaline, Co Cork.
In the case of that claimant, he was charged a total fee of €8,510 for processing his claim, the High Court heard. He secured an award of €70,000, plus €6,000 for solicitors' fees. The firm had accepted the €6,000 and retained €2,510 from the award. A second claimant said he secured an award of €103,333, plus €10,800 for solicitors' fees.
The firm's fee sought was €14,300 and it retained the balance of its fees, €4,235, from the award.
Yesterday, Mr Murphy rejected claims that the committee was biased in any decision that it had made in relation to the solicitors' firm. He also denied that comments published in the media by the Director of Consumer Affairs, Carmel Foley, who was also a lay member of the society's three-person complaints committee in October 2005, indicated bias.
The case resumes on Tuesday.
© 2007 The Irish Times
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Sister demands to be told why her tragic brother was locked in institutions for 57 years
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Sixty year old Christy Smith was buried yesterday after a life which can only be described as a tragedy.
In a life lived over six decades, Christy enjoyed fewer than three years of freedom - and these were spent living rough on the cold streets of Cork.
Now, his sister, Mary, who traced her brother 17 years ago, thanks to an appeal on the Gerry Ryan 2FM show, has demanded answers from the Government and health authorities over why her brother spent practically his entire life in psychiatric care.
His institutional childhood was divided between mother-and-babies homes and brutal industrial schools. "My brother's life was stolen from him - he never had a chance," Mary said last night.
"He never had any quality of life - in fact, his life was destroyed before it had even started," she said. Mary - who now lives in Dublin - is particularly concerned over why Christy was placed in psychiatric care in 1966 and why no specific details, as were then required under the Mental Health Act, were recorded about his psychiatric condition.
Committal Similarly, she had never been able to trace the committal form for her brother.
Mary raised the matter two years ago with Health Minister Mary Harney and the Health Service Executive were asked to review the case. She wrote to more than 30 TDs to raise her brother's plight - and even wrote to Ulster MEP Ian Paisley. But Christy died on Friday - after never having been released from care except for a brief period in a West Cork hostel.
Last night, the HSE stressed that it does not comment on individual cases as a matter of policy.
The HSE also stressed that it is fully committed to a community-focused mental healthcare system. Sadly, for Christy Smith it is now too late.
Christy was born in a Cork mother-and-babies home to a 14-year-old girl in 1946. When his mother gave birth to a second child - a daughter - five years later she was sent to a psychiatric hospital where she spent her remaining 14 years, dying at just 32.
She was ultimately buried in a pauper's plot in 1964, just two years before Christy was committed. At five years of age, Christy was to begin a tough existence in industrial schools.
He was beaten, traumatised and treated with shocking neglect. Boys at one of the schools he was sent to often had to forage with pigs for food during the winter months.
Cork mental health campaigner and Cork North Central general election candidate, John McCarthy, said Christy's tragic story highlights the terrible stigma which is attached to mental illness in Ireland.
"I have never come across a more heart-breaking story than that of Christy Smith.
This awful story perfectly highlights the terrible treatment of people with mental health problems," he said. At 17 years, Christy was sent to work for a farmer in North Cork - and was locked into a shed at night with the animals.
Nine months later, he ran away only to spend two years living rough on the streets of Cork. In 1966, he was brought by gardai to a Cork psychiatric hospital for treatment as a temporary patient.
But he was never again to leave a psychiatric institution alive. Christy died on February 16 last - and was buried yesterday at St Mary's Cemetery, Curraghkippane, Cork, close by the pauper's plot where his mother lies.................. Ralph Riegel
Irish Independent http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ & http://www.unison.ie/
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A ‘wake – Up Call’
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March 2, 2007
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May we refer to the article “A ‘wake – Up Call’ – Lenihan” by John Downes in The Irish Times dated 1st March 2007.
The Minister for Children, Brian Lenihan, said that the publication of the report into the state of the nation’s children had raised several issues of concern and was a “wake – up call” to society.
The Minister for Children, Brian Lenihan, should also get “A wake – up call” because as a former Junior Health Minister in 2002, he said that more than 10,000 files on children who were in institutional and foster care, as far back as the 1930s, have been discovered by the Department of Health in a major breakthrough.
The files shed light on the plight of some children who were hired out as labour to gentry and farmers and may provide the only evidence for a number of people whose background details have been denied them.
The department is now inviting people who were in State care and searched for personal records to make applications under the Freedom of Information Act – allowing them the chance to get vital facts on their background which may have been hidden for years.
The former Junior Health Minister, Brian Lenihan, said officials are to examine around 10,000 of these files, some of which were retrieved from the National Archives.
The trawl is expected to take several months but a sample has already unearthed information on children who were “nursed” (fostered when older or “boarded” (sent to live with other families).
It has also divulged details about children in care who were “hired out” to work with farmers, fishermen or sent into service and there is also some correspondence relating to individual children.
The major development also includes files which have general titles referring to counties, geographical districts or specific institutions.
“The lists of children from the sample of files referred to contain summary information on individual children.
This was compiled from inspection visits to the children and includes names and ages.
“They sometimes show where the children came from and sometimes they include information on the child.
While some lists are in standard form there is a variety of correspondence and it is difficult to predict the extent of personal information which may emerge from a detailed examination,” said Mr Lenihan.
Those who have already applied for their records under FOI will be added to the project known as Access to Institutional and Related Records.
If this the case, then the Minister for Children, Brian Lenihan, should be able to answer why the documents furnished to date by all parties are minimalist in the extreme, devoid of information of substance and factually incorrect and misleading.
Albert King on behalf of Mary King. (victim of institutional child abuse).
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Those Who Trespass Against Us.
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March 20, 2007
I have cut and pasted the information below from the publishers site.
It is a great but sad, story based on the life of Walter O'Keeffe, who grew up in Greenmont Industrial School and was abused.
He settled his claim with the Redress Board. This book may serve as a great resource.
The publishers site is: http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/view-item?item=18214
Rob Eison
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Those Who Trespass Against Us: Based on the Life of Walter O'Keeffe
by Toni O'Keeffe
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248 pages; quality trade paperback (softcover); catalogue #06-2214; ISBN 1-4251-0457-6; US$21.70, C$24.95, EUR17.82, £12.48
A disturbing look at the suffering of one small orphaned, Irish boy and the abuse he endured between 1939-1948, when the Irish legal system and the church had gone mad with regard to the care of children.
About the Book
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Those Who Trespass Against Us is a vivid, disturbing look at the life and suffering of one small, orphaned, Irish boy.
This is a heart-wrenching tale based on the life of Walter O'Keeffe, between, 1939-1948 in Ireland, as he struggles to survive the inhumane treatment imposed on him by those charged with his care.
This is a tragic, personal account of lost love and abuse at a time when the Irish legal system had gone mad with regard to the care of children.
Through-out the book a sharp picture is painted of the horrific conditions in Ireland's Industrial Schools, in particular, Greenmont Industrial School in Cork where the Presentation Brothers starved, beat, preyed upon, and abused the children in their care.
During his years of abuse, Walter's happy memories of his early life with his parents in Polrone Ireland, and of his childhood sweetheart, Josie, provide him with hope and a place to escape the harsh realities of his dreadful existence.
On May 11, 1999, the Government of Ireland apologized on behalf of the State to the victims of abuse in Ireland's industrial schools.
For many, like Walter, the apology came to late, his life had already been grossly affected and negatively shaped by the horrors of being separated from his family and growing up in Greenmont.
Other stories relate the suffering of Ireland's children, and while they are all horrible, no other so brilliantly describes a personal account of the severe conditions children were exposed to during this shameful period of Irish history.
Walters story also exposes the lasting impact living in these conditions continued to have on individuals' even years after they left the chambers of horrors in which they were forced to live.
About the Author
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Toni O'Keeffe grew up in Vancouver BC and is the second eldest child of Walter and Monica O'Keeffe. O'Keeffe has been a professional business writer and communicator for over twenty years.
She has now put her creative talent to work to carry out a promise she made to her father when she was only five years old, a promise that she would one day tell his story.
O'Keeffe has two grown sons Ryan and Korey. She lives with her husband Robert in Parksville BC. She currently works as a Director for Malaspina University-College on Vancouver Island. Walter O'Keeffe and his Author daughter Toni.
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In the aftermath of the resignation of Justice Ms Mary Laffoy in September 2003.
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Does the Irish Government have any respect for the Constitution, the basic law of Ireland?
The Judges letter of resignation can be summarised as a basic lesson on the need for Bertie Aherns government to respect the fundamental pillars of Ireland’s democratic society.
The clear implication made by Ms Justice Mary Laffoy, who despite her resignation from the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse in September 2003 remains a sitting judge of the superior courts, is that Bertie Aherns government has not acted properly under the Constitution.
It begs the question – is this Government fit to govern us.
Bertie Ahern would do well to get back to basics – the basics of law.
The basics: Under the Constitution, Ireland belongs to the people of Ireland.
It is a democracy.
The people of Ireland ordained that three organs of the state should be set up to protect their democracy: the Oireachtas, the government and the courts.
The Oireachtas comprises the Dail, Seanad and President and makes legislation governing the life of the Irish people
The government is executively responsible for running the country and must give effect to the laws passed by the Oireachtas.
The courts (the judges) are obliged to ensure that the constitution is upheld, laws respected and justice dispensed.
The success or failure of Irish democracy largely depends on the respect the Taoiseach has for the balance of power between the Oireachtas, the government and the judges.
The “invidious position” referred to in her letter of resignation is that Ms Justice Mary Laffoy, as a judge, could not satisfy herself that the government is respecting a law made by parliament.
She was obliged to step down.
When a judge feels obliged to accuse a government that it “stymies” and “renders powerless” a body established by parliament, constitutional democracy is threatened.
When an eminent member of the judiciary (one organ of government) is forced to resign from a commission established by the parliament (another organ of state) because she views that government (the executive organ of state) has failed in its duties, this is a constitutional crisis.
Bertie Ahern knows that in the informal game of politics, a politician survives or dies on votes.
However, the government has forgotten the constitution, a legal document for which it must have respect.
Once elected by the people, a politician is a TD (member of parliament).
As a formally – elected representative of the people, a TD is first and foremost a lawmaker in one of the three organs of state – the parliament.
The parties comprising the current government control the majority of seats in the parliament and, therefore, dictate the legislative agenda of the parliament.
When the parliament makes a law, however, the government is obliged, as necessary to give effect to it.
The problem for Bertie Ahern and the Education Minister Mary Hanafin including the Ryan Commission and the Redress Board is that they are wearing so many different hats they have forgotten the rules of the constitutional game.
No matter which way they now turn, though, they’re running around in circles.
The Taoiseach gave political assurances to thousands of victims of institutional child abuse.
He has not honoured these assurances.
Before Ms Justice Mary Laffoy resigned there were around 1,957 applications wishing to have their allegations of abuse inquired into by the commission’s investigation committee.
A strong argument exists that responsibility and liability for the negligent handling of certain child abuse cases should rest at the front door of the Department of Education.
Is democracy served by the fact that the very department that ought to be a defendant in a negligence action before the courts is accused – by an eminent judge – of rendering inoperable the workings of a statutory commission established to vindicate the rights of thousands of victims of institutional child abuse?
How can justice prevail for the victims of abuse if the very government department in charge of the schools and institutions where abuse took place is also in charge of the purse strings of the corrupt Ryan Commission and corrupt Redress Board.
Will Bertie Ahern deal with this constitutional crisis in a formal way or will his government, as seems more likely, continue down the dangerous road of deterring democracy through political spin.
Albert King on behalf of Mary King. (victim of institutional child abuse).
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Sisters of Mercy break rank
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Yesterday's statement by the Sisters of Mercy is an event of considerable national and even international importance.
It is without precedent on any continent where children have been abused in Catholic Church-run institutions, writes Mary Raftery
What makes it so significant is that the Mercy nuns have broken ranks.
They have finally stopped blaming others (the State, society) for the abuse of children in their industrial schools, and have themselves taken full responsibility for the damage they caused to the thousands of children who grew up in their care.
Crucially, they have stated directly to victims that they believe them when they tell of the "physical and emotional trauma" they suffered as children.
This issue of belief has been central to the concerns of many of the survivors of abuse at industrial schools.
They have felt with great justification that while conditional apologies have been made by many of the religious orders involved, these nuns and brothers still do not really believe them and their experiences of abuse.
Yesterday's unequivocal statement from the Mercy nuns is the first crumbling of the hard line that the religious orders have adopted towards victims.
Inevitably, the unconditional nature of the Mercy apology will beg important questions of the other 17 congregations who ran industrial schools in Ireland.
As by far the largest provider of such institutions, it is fitting that the Mercy nuns should provide the lead.
The question is whether any of the others will have the moral fibre to follow.
"We do not know what any other congregation needs to do," Sister Breege O'Neill, the head of the congregation's leadership team, told me when we met on Tuesday in advance of her press conference yesterday.
"This is about our journey, our own need to reclaim our integrity, to be faithful to our calling and to reach out to people in need. We have to realise that compassion has to become more important than litigation.
Our greatest distress is that we have caused such distress to so many people both now and in the past."
It is possible to take a cynical approach to the nuns' new apology, to argue that it is easy for them to confess now that they have secured a legal indemnity from the State.
"I have no answer to that," Sister Breege says, "except to say that we're not doing this because of the church/State deal.
We've been involved in a reflective process around this crisis for a number of years. We've been looking at every aspect of ourselves, our training and formation, our history, and this statement is the result of that process.
Our greatest difficulty has always been to admit we got it wrong. And the truth is that the indemnity deal has not brought us any nearer to closure on the issue."
There is a possible analogy here with the South African truth and reconciliation process.
The public confessions by perpetrators of human rights abuses could only occur there in the context of the amnesty which they were promised.
In this country, it could be argued that State indemnity is the equivalent of that amnesty, that it may allow all the congregations the space to take full responsibility for their crimes against children.
It is clear that the criminal justice system has failed in this regard, and both the Redress Board and the Ryan (formerly Laffoy) Commission remain embroiled in controversy. Perhaps the Mercy nuns have shown the first real step towards some kind of a healing process for the victims of abuse.
Speaking of the notorious church/State deal, Sister Breege O'Neill is adamant that it will not be renegotiated.
However, she does say that the nuns will do anything necessary to bring about healing for the victims, and doesn't rule out the allocation of additional resources by the congregation in this process.
Their new apology also does not mean that they now accept each and every allegation made against them.
That a number of their members vigorously protest their innocence was for a long time the single biggest stumbling block on the way to making yesterday's statement.
But, it is highly significant that their statement contains no reference to false allegations.
"We will uphold the right of our sisters to due process," says Sister Breege. "At the same time, our hope is that this apology will change everything in the long term.
We have now taken full and unconditional responsibility for our failures and we must focus on people's need to be heard and to be believed.
And we do believe them.
Their experience is what is important. We want to hear them and do anything in our power to ease their pain."
I have in the past been a strong critic of the Mercy congregation.
However, I now believe it is finally beginning to grapple with the appalling truth of the thousands of lives which it destroyed in its institutions.
It is a process which may well split the Mercy nuns down the middle.
What is now clear, however, is that their leadership believes that it is only by confronting this truth that both the nuns and their victims can have any chance of being set free.
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CATHOLICS AND DEGENERATES.
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Ladies, Gentlemen and Scholars,
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"I know that some people raised as Catholics blame the Church of Rome for their difficulties in later life, nourishing a particularly degenerate literary genre." - Quote from Michael Fitzpatrick's article on "The Dawkins Delusion" dated 18 December 2006.
I sent you the article but I think this sentence is worth an article of its own.
Dr Fitzpatrick is a "Catholic Atheist".
I describe myself as a semi-lapsed Catholic of the traditionalist type.
What we have in common is an education that valued intellectual rigour and took concepts like 'Free Will' and 'Personal Responsibility' for granted.
(Incidentally his "Brother Alpheus" sounds like the name of a De La Salle Brother - my own religious order!).
We have become a degenerate society in which "Victim" is a term of praise and the degenerates who make false claims of child abuse are richly rewarded from state coffers.
Their leaders - like Mary Raftery and Christine Buckley - receive public honours while heroes like Nora Wall, Sister Xaviera and the late Brother Joseph O'Connor are viciously slandered.
I cannot see how our society is going to survive. We are as decadent as the Weimar Republic ever was.
Meanwhile equivalents of the Nazis are everywhere.
Islamic fascism threatens us from the outside while criminals - both political and 'ordinary' - are undermining us from within.
What does our society stand for?
Are there any values for which people will fight?
Surely that type of question should figure in the history books that you write?
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The author of above is the same person who purportedly went to London, no, not in search of the Queen or anyone resembling her - but instead, he went in search of "Dirt" on a man who during the mid eighties committed suicide by setting himself alight on Hampstead Heath, London.
He was one Peter Tyrrell.
Rory Connor is a stirrer of the highest order.
The tone of his letter is despicable.
The media obviously does not print his vitriolic diatribe, so he has to resort to the Mercy of a website that was specifically set up for victims/survivors of institutional abuse.
He makes my blood boil.
is condescending manner sends me into a spin.
e feeds off people like Richard Webster.
Dawkins is now his latest target.
notice that he still refers to the De-La Salle Brothers as "his" Order.
He left it in the sixties.
The De-La Salle Brothers throughout the world are notorious for being the perpetrators of sexual abuse of institutional children.
"We have become a degenerate society in which "Victim" is a term of praise and the degenerates who make false claims of child abuse are richly rewarded from state coffers"
Florence Horseman Hogan was the first person to coin the phrase "degenerate" in relation to those who were in institutions who were standing up for themselves against the government.
She thankfully did not get away with it and was lifted out of it by the media.
She now has {gott sei dank} departed} and gone her separate way.
But her sidekick is still up and running.
You will note that he does not even use the word "alleged" with regards child abuse.
It is laughable really as the moderator of the the site of which he has decided to display his drivel has in actuality been a recipient of the Residential Institutions Redress "richly rewarded" awards.....
This man is so full of contradictions.
He claims to be concerned with Child Abuse issues yet the very man allegedly ran a mile away from a Dublin Pub {a couple of years ago} from a distraught boy of sixteen - the instant the lad started relaying to him the horrific saga of a brutal childhood sexual abuse attack.
He left this vulnerable teenager in a high state of anxiety that he was almost suicidal.
The propensity for this man to involve himself - in stirring up trouble - is huge.
"Their leaders - like Mary Raftery and Christine Buckley - receive public honours while heroes like Nora Wall, Sister Xaviera and the late Brother Joseph O'Connor are viciously slandered "
What does Rory Connor know about Sister Xaveria? {whose name, I should add, he does not even get right.
I would second guess that he knows as much about her as he does the correct spelling of her name.
Mary Raftery is not a Leader of the victims/survivors of institutional abuse.
I will refrain from even thinking about Christine Buckley as I have been down that knotty road once too often
From what I gather about Brother Joseph O' Connor who was the Band Leader of the Famous Artane Band, he was by all accounts an alleged wretched so and so.
What does Rory Connor stand for, might we as victims/survivors of institutional
abuse ask?
With the likes of him to be had society will still be as decadent as ever as his ilk will surely keep child abuse underground.
Yeah, equivalents of Irish Nazis are certainly still to be found one does not need to look any further than the ex De-La-Salle seminarian whose rantings one only has to read.
This is the very gentleman who allegedly accuses victims/survivors of incitement to hatred.
The slanderous name he labels those of whom were the most marginalised of Irish society is absolutely disgraceful.
He is nothing short of an Enver Hoxa Hitlerite.
I had best conclude so as not to get more hot under the collar.
I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE LADIES, GENTLEMEN AND SCHOLARS ARE? IN HIS EYES WE ARE DEGENERATES, gosh, we must be VERY POSH DEGENERATES. I say?....Marie-Therese O' Loughlin
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Yikes, how dreadful,... 'Degenerate' - what a very odd choice of word.
Something of a give-away, in fact - as if perhaps he, like the people who ran places like Goldenbridge, thinks the children there were somehow inherently deserving of harsh treatment. I bet that's it.
That's a way of thinking that humans seem to fall into all too easily - as with Dalits - untouchables - in Hinduism.
They're supposed to be inherently dirty and polluted all the way through.
Of course there is no such thing!
But humans like to think there is - unless they're lucky enough to learn otherwise, or to be too sensible to believe it in the first place.
The idea of 'sin' probably has a lot to do with it.................................Well Wisher.
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Discrimination against India's lowest Hindu castes is technically illegal.
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But try telling that to the 160 million Untouchables, who face violent reprisals if they forget their place.
The message is clear: Stay at the bottom where you belong.
To be born a Hindu in India is to enter the caste system, one of the world's longest surviving forms of social stratification.
Embedded in Indian culture for the past 1,500 years, the caste system follows a basic precept: All men are created unequal.
The ranks in Hindu society come from a legend in which the main groupings, or varnas, emerge from a primordial being.
From the mouth come the Brahmans—the priests and teachers.
From the arms come the Kshatriyas—the rulers and soldiers.
From the thighs come the Vaisyas—merchants and traders.
From the feet come the Sudras—laborers.
Each varna in turn contains hundreds of hereditary castes and subcastes with their own pecking orders.
A fifth group describes the people who are achuta, or untouchable.
The primordial being does not claim them.
Untouchables are outcasts—people considered too impure, too polluted, to rank as worthy beings.
Prejudice defines their lives, particularly in the rural areas, where nearly three-quarters of India's people live.
Untouchables are shunned, insulted, banned from temples and higher caste homes, made to eat and drink from separate utensils in public places, and, in extreme but not uncommon cases, are raped, burned, lynched, and gunned down.
Lesser Humans, and discover the unspeakable working conditions of India's Bhangis, the "lowest" of the Untouchable castes.
Although the Indian constitution makes caste discrimination illegal, Untouchables living at the bottom of society are subjected to indignities and atrocities.
Dalit, a term that has become synonymous with Untouchable, is the name that many Untouchables, especially politically aware individuals, have chosen for themselves.
The name means "oppressed" and highlights the persecution and discrimination India's 160 million Untouchables face regularly.
First used in the context of caste oppression in the 19th century, it was popularized in the 1970s by Untouchable writers and members of the revolutionary Dalit Panthers (the name was inspired by the Black Panthers of the United States).
Dalit has largely come to replace Harijan, the name given to Untouchables by Gandhi, much like the Black Power movement in the United States led to the replacement of the labels coloured and Negro with black.
For some activists, Dalit is used to refer to all of India's oppressed peoples whether Hindus, Muslims, Christians, tribal minorities, or women.
Heidi Schultz
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So people who grew up in Ireland's Industrial schools that were blotted all over the the Irish Landscape are purely UNTOUCHABLES in the eyes of hoary Roary.
No, wait, ...... UNTOUCHABLES is too good a word, we are .............yes,..............BHANGI'S....the lowest of the UNTOUCHABLES.
That is precisely what the ex-seminarian really means. Tell me, Rory, where does an achuta neanderthal like you fit into the pictue?
After-all, it takes one Bhangi to know another Bhangi, so you must belong to a similar caste system.
You have stepped over the dividing line once too often. You only think you will get away with your decrepit behaviour.
To Richard Dawkin's - I say "Achtung" Herr Roary has checked under his bed and the SS from the Weimar Republic, with their Leader Bruder Alpheus are on their delusional way.
DE GENERA[TE}L DOKTOR FITZPATRICK has given Herr Roary orders to flush you out.
TO SEND YOU TO, - NO, NOT Coventry, yeah, Buchenwald, a much nicer place.
Your religious arguments are tantamount to child abuse and will not be -any more by him - tolerated...............................Shh.........SCHNELL, SCHELL,...........................SIE KOMMT.....................GLAUBE ICH.......................?
The luminaries such as Goethe, Schiller, and Herder in Herr Roary's head are driving him wirklich veruckt. his mind is all over the place.
He is in a virtual timewarp....
He is in the period in German history from 1919-1933B which is commonly referred to as the Weimar Republic. and there is no telling him any differently.
The concentration camp near Weimar, Buchenwald, [beside a little wood that Goethe had loved to frequent] and where more than 55,000 prisoners entered the gates bearing the mottos "Jedem das Seine" ("to each his due") and "Recht oder Unrecht—Mein Vaterland" ("right or wrong—my fatherland") is where he wants you to rot. He has it in mind to shift all the other degenerate untouchables to the same place.
THAT, IS, - IF HE DOES NOT IN THE MEAN TIME RUN OUT OF HIS PROZAC AMMUNITION!...........................Eine freundin - bin ich sicher nicht!
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